Clojure

Discussed here: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/clojure/XvJUzaY1jec/l8xEwlFl8EUJ

please no

Alan Malloy raises a good point in the google group discussion (https://groups.google.com/d/msg/clojure/XvJUzaY1jec/aVpWBicwGhsJ) about accidental confusion between trailing (or floating) and leading colons:
"It isn't even as simple as "letting them
be whitespace", because presumably you want (read-string "{a: b}") to
result in (hash-map 'a 'b), but (read-string "{a :b}") to result in
(hash-map 'a :b)."

This issue could be avoided by only treating a colon as whitespace when followed by a comma. As easy cut-paste of json seems the be the key motivation here, the commas are going to be there anyway: valid {"v":, 1234} vs syntax error {a-key: should-be-a-keyword}.

This would be visually confusing imo.

Please, oh please, no.

Er, brain fart. I was typing faster than I was thinking and put the comma in the wrong place. In my head I meant the form following the colon would have to have a comma after it. Thus, {"a-json-key": 1234, ...} would be valid while {"a-json-key": was-supposed-to-be-a-keyword "another-json-key" foo} would complain about the colon being an Invalid Token. I don't see the need for it, however.

Clojure already has reader syntax for a map. If we support JSON, do we also support ruby map literals? Seems like this addition would only add confusion, imo, given colons are used in keywords and keywords are frequently used in maps - e.g., when de-serializing from XML, or even JSON.

Clojure is no longer a language hosted only on the JVM. Clojure is also hosted on the CLR, and JavaScript. In particular ClojureScript can't currently easily deal with JSON literals - an extremely common (though problematic) data format. By allowing colon whitespace in map literals - Clojure data structures can effectively become an extensible JSON superset - giving the succinctness of JSON and the expressiveness of XML.

+1 from me.

Clojure is only hosted on the JVM; ClojureScript is hosted on JS VMs. If this is useful for CLJS, it should just be a CLJS feature.

-1 for this whole idea: that way madness lies....

If we keep adding syntactical oddities like this then the language will become unmaintainably complex. It's the exact opposite of simple to have lots of special cases and ambiguities that you have to remember.

If people want to use JSON that is fine, but then the best approach use a specific JSON parser/writer, not just paste it into Clojure source and expect it to work.