I think the non-eval behavior would be consistent with the other reader literals in Clojure 1.4. It's definitely better for interop where some other language implementation could be expected to handle a few literal representations, but not the evaluation of Clojure expressions. Use a regular function if the args need evaluation.

The precedent of records seems relevant:

=> (defrecord A [b])
user.A
=> #user.A[(+ 4 5)]
#user.A{:b (+ 4 5)}
=> #user.A{:b (+ 4 5)}
#user.A{:b (+ 4 5)}

This continues to make sense, as otherwise queues would need to print with an extra (quote …) form around lists — which records neatly avoid:

=> (A. '(+ 4 5))
#user.A{:b (+ 4 5)}

Does this mean that a queue fn (analogous to vector, maybe) will also make an appearance? It'd be handy for HOF usage.

Added a patch for the tagged literal support ONLY. This is only one part of the total solution. This provides the read-string and printing capability. I'd like more discussion around the eval side before I get dive into the compiler.

In addition to Chas' observations on consistency with record literals, would eval in queue literals open up the same security hole as #=, needing to respect *read-eval*?
When needing eval inside a queue literal, embedding a #= seems more apropos.

Evalable queue literal support.

Neither of the patches CLJ-976-queue-literal-tagged-parse-support-only.diff dated Apr 27, 2012 nor CLJ-976-queue-literal-eval.diff dated May 4, 2012 apply cleanly to latest master as of May 10, 2012.

Updated patch file to merge with latest master.

New patch with support fixed for syntax-quote.

Patch does not apply as of commit f5f4faf95051f794c9bfa0315e4457b600c84cef

Weird. I was able to download the CLJ-976-queue-literal-eval-and-synquote.diff patch and apply it to HEAD as of just now (f5f4faf95051f794c9bfa0315e4457b600c84cef). There were whitespace warnings, but the patch applied, compiles and passes all tests.

With latest head I was able to successfully apply patch CLJ-976-queue-literal-eval-and-synquote.diff with this command:

git am --keep-cr -s < CLJ-976-queue-literal-eval-and-synquote.diff

with some warnings, but successfully applied. If I try it without the --keep-cr option, the patch fails to apply. I believe this is often a sign that either one of the files being patched, or the patch itself, contains CR/LF line endings, which some of the Clojure source files definitely do.

The command above (with --keep-cr) is currently the one recommended for applying patches on page http://dev.clojure.org/display/design/JIRA+workflow in section "Screening Tickets". I added the suggested --keep-cr option after running across another patch that applied with the option, but not without it.

Presumptuously changing Approval from Incomplete back to Test, since the latest patch does apply cleanly if --keep-cr option is used.

this needs more time

Rich,

Do you mind providing a little more detail? I would be happy to make any changes if needed. However, if it's just a matter of its relationship to EDN and/or waiting until the next release then I am happy to wait. In either case, I'd like to complete this or push it to the back of my mind. Thanks.

clj-976-queue-literal-eval-and-synquote-patch-v2.txt dated Oct 5 2012 is identical to Fogus's patch CLJ-976-queue-literal-eval-and-synquote.diff dated Jul 20 2012. It simply removes one line addition to clojure.iml that Rich has since added in a different commit, so that this patch now applies cleanly to latest master.

clj-976-queue-literal-eval-and-synquote-patch-v3.txt dated oct 16 2012 is identical to Fogus's patch CLJ-976-queue-literal-eval-and-synquote.diff dated Jul 20 2012. It simply removes one line addition to clojure.iml that Rich has since added in a different commit, so that this patch now applies cleanly to latest master.

Fogus, with the recent commit of a patch for CLJ-1070, my touched-up patch clj-976-queue-literal-eval-and-synquote-patch-v3.txt dated Oct 16 2012 doesn't apply cleanly. In this case it isn't simply a few lines of context that have changed, it is the interfaces that PersistentQueue implements have been changed. It might be best if you take a look at the latest code and the patch and consider how it should be updated.

Related to CLJ-1078.

Not quite sure how to create a repeatable test for this since the issue depends on the local timezone.

java.util.TimeZone/setDefault could be used for testing in various timezones.

Regarding the patch: SimpleDateFormat is a relatively heavy-weight object, so it seems bad to allocate one every time you print a Date. Unfortunately, SimpleDateFormat is not thread-safe, so you can't just share one. The Java world seems to agree that you should use JodaTime instead, but if you're stuck with the JDK, you need to have a ThreadLocal SimpleDateFormat. I'm working on my own patch along those lines.

Excellent analysis. I'll keep track of this case and vet any patches that come along. Please do attach a regression test if possible.

I attached a new patch using a SimpleDateFormat per thread using a thread local. I'll try to add some tests next.

A combined patch that uses a thread local SimpleDateFormat, tests round-tripping at a known daylight savings point (by overriding the default timezone) and checks round tripping at multiple points throughout the year (every hour of the first 4 weeks of every month of the year).

Steve, thanks for the suggestions on using a thread local and TimeZone/setDefault.

I filed CLJ-928 with my patch for fixing the printing of Date and Timestamp using UTC. I copied the tests from the CLJ-926 patch to make sure we're compatible.

Thanks for the regression test also. I'll vett this patch ASAP.

Seems reasonable to me.

Vetted. Will apply later.

Not Vetted. Test. That thing.

No, it's "Screened," not "Test." Somebody save me.

Superseded by CLJ-928.